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 JOINT WARRIOR 4 - CLAIMING/REPORTING 
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Examples of valid claims:

Air-to-Air kills: You have fired on someone and he crashed while attempting to evade your missiles or you are involved in a dogfight and your opponent crashes in the middle of it. You can claim it here whilst specifying who was involved, at what time in Tacview and a description of the situation.

Assists (kill sharing): two or more pilots can share the same kill if they were all involved in destroying the target. Involved means having fired on the same target before it got hit and missiles were close enough. You can claim it here whilst specifying who was involved, at what time in Tacview and a description of the situation.

Reporting an oversight: While we try to be as accurate as possible with the results, oversights can happen, so this is why we try to involve you the pilots. Anything odd or unclear, you can also post here whether it be your flight or someone else's.


Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:39 pm
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Hi, it means that ground kills can be assisted too?, por example a tank receive the first shot from one striker, and the second from another striker is the one that kills the tank. In this case the value of the tank will be splitted for the two strikers?.

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Examples of valid claims:

Air-to-Air kills: You have fired on someone and he crashed while attempting to evade your missiles or you are involved in a dogfight and your opponent crashes in the middle of it. You can claim it here whilst specifying who was involved, at what time in Tacview and a description of the situation.

Assists (kill sharing): two or more pilots can share the same kill if they were all involved in destroying the target. Involved means having fired on the same target before it got hit and missiles were close enough.

Reporting an oversight: While we try to be as accurate as possible with the results, oversights can happen, so this is why we try to involve you the pilots. Anything odd or unclear, you can also post here whether it be your flight or someone else's.


Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:41 am
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Hello,

I would like to claim an A2A kill in JW4. At time 00:44:34 Fritz135 crashes while being chased by my AIM120s.

Thank you

TAW_Panthir


Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:18 am
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Rush wrote:
Hi, it means that ground kills can be assisted too?, por example a tank receive the first shot from one striker, and the second from another striker is the one that kills the tank. In this case the value of the tank will be splitted for the two strikers?.


Yes strikers can share the kill too but there must not be too much time separating the hits. For instance, a tank got hit the first time but did not explode, then a couple of second later, another striker finished it off, in this case, the pilot who destroyed the target scores 100% of the target's value and the pilot who damaged it gets 50%. If more than two pilots involved, the pilot who destroyed the target still get 100% then 50% is shared between assisting pilots. Remember that only a few seconds must be separating the hits for the assist claim to be valid.

S!


Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:52 am
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Panthir wrote:
Hello,

I would like to claim an A2A kill in JW4. At time 00:44:34 Fritz135 crashes while being chased by my AIM120s.

Thank you

TAW_Panthir


Granted Panthir, Thanks for reporting it.

S!


Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:13 am
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Hi!

I reviewed Blackbird's JW4 flight in tacview, and to me it seems he gets a total of 4 kills, two of which are unreported in the tacview:

TAW_Coxy at 09:07:21

and

Rabb at 09:53:51


Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:09 pm
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Stuge wrote:
Hi!

I reviewed Blackbird's JW4 flight in tacview, and to me it seems he gets a total of 4 kills, two of which are unreported in the tacview:

TAW_Coxy at 09:07:21

and

Rabb at 09:53:51


Hey!

These are the kills that I picked up for Blackbird (Rabb and Coxy are included), where is the 4th kill?

=238.lbae=Fenix
TAW_Coxy
Rabb


Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:21 pm
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SA Staff wrote:
Stuge wrote:
Hi!

I reviewed Blackbird's JW4 flight in tacview, and to me it seems he gets a total of 4 kills, two of which are unreported in the tacview:

TAW_Coxy at 09:07:21

and

Rabb at 09:53:51


Hey!

These are the kills that I picked up for Blackbird (Rabb and Coxy are included), where is the 4th kill?

=238.lbae=Fenix
TAW_Coxy
Rabb


Hmm, it appears I was mistaken after all.

Somehow I thought TAW_Aikido was shot down by Blackbird, but it was actually Riptide..

Sorry for the inconvenience, my bad.


Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:23 am
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Originally Posted by pyromaniac4002 View Post
Good show Orange Team! Wish you the best of luck against 104th/51st next week!

On a less cool note, after playing back the Tacview and my own in-game footage I took with ShadowPlay, I need to review the circumstances around the deaths of Doktormarg and myself with the stats guys. Something very weird went on with Akystoy. He strafed me for some minor damage, but there was no "kill shot," he never fired at Dok, and Dok hit him with 2 or 3 AMRAAMs and I didn't catch it in my ShadowPlay recording, but he ejected several minutes after Doktormarg and I spontaneously exploded and he was credited with the kills. I'm uploading my recording right now but the Tacview shows clearly that he didn't actually do anything that would have killed us.



Pyromaniac is right, in the first stage of the game looks like it was buggy, I know that aKystoy don't have any cheat, it is beyond dispute . Now looking the facts, looks like aKystoy was destroyed at 07:28:15, I remember reading the message in the top of the screen, but I asked him and told me that he was perfect with no damage and in dogfight, minutes later the messages of Pyro and Doktor destruction, which was real weird in this stage of the game. In the tacview from this minutes aKystoy appear invisible, but looks like in the game was visible, because both Pyro and Doktor shoot him and as they say, and later they vanished with no threat close!.

Another weird thing, the AIM-120C that killed Aleman, do not emitted any signal in pitbull, aleman never knows it was there.

RuSH


Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:53 pm
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my death was also "wierd" im sure its just a lag issue. it looks perfectly normal on the tac view, however, what i saw in game was completely different. i managed to get out of the engagement and extend just about 10 nm behind gabriel. I saw hawss get shoot down and gabe and i continued to rtb on full burner. then all of the sudden i died. no missle warning or anything.

i would guess i actually died like it is represented on the tacview but it simply registered a lot later hence why i kept flying. however, if you guys can look into it it would be appreciated.
thank you
S77th Bandit


Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:22 pm
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